Gordon Ramsey

[Alice]

Just saw an add online for the gordon ramsey show 'the F word'..one part of it tonight is about him cooking veal 'for vegetarians who are keen to try meat again'. Now I know i'm not the strictest of veggies out there as you know but even growing up in a meat eating family, we were never allowed veal. Although eating meat is still basically taking a life there seems something even worse about taking a child from its mother and killing it before its even had a taste of 'life'.
What group of veggies did they get for this show? I couldnt bring myself to watch it knowing that on these programmes now they do such things as cutting animals throats live so they can up the ratings. I think the whole thing of shock culture now is out of hand and so so sad.

[jonas]

"What group of veggies did they get for this show? "......exactly! what the hell are these people thinking?!?! how can you go from anti-cruelty to eating, what i feel, is the most heartbreaking "meat" there is. sad sad sad. man i used to like watching Nightmare Kitchens with Mr. Ramsey now I'm kind of rethinking that.

[Alice]

Probably veggies who have jumped on the bandwagon for five minutes. People are so very fickle (or am I just cynical?) ..like the whole thing now of celebs going on about f**ing carbon foorprints...I can see lots of people sitting there nodding their heads in agreement because Madonna or Bob Geldof has said its important..you know it wont last..its a fad for the bulk of the public and a boost for publicity for those who need it.
On what you said about 'Nightmare Kitchens', I watched a few of those..yeah they could be funny because of the swearing but if you know what brits are like, we are a nation who tend to swear an awful lot (if your a commoner like me that is lol)..so my point is; swearing and shouting at people may entertain for a short while but soon that wears thin and then you need to get a bit more shocking. So what happened then is that another bloke and Jamie Olliver started doing programmes about what goes on in factory farming although what I saw of one of these shows was portrayed in a fairly nice type fashion (ie not like 'meet your meat')..a chicken was killed on the show in a quick way, everyone in the audience looked a tiny bit shocked for a moment and then you could almost read their minds..it was like 'ooh we have experienced the death of an animal first hand, lets pretend we are prehistoric hunters'. I wonder after leaving that show and spouting a bit of bullsh*t to their mates, how many went to be vegetarian?' Bugger all I reckon...anyway getting back to the point..now there seems to be a glut of shows all having animals killed on them. The presenters say it is to educate people on how things work, I personally think its ratings..still think im cynical?? :0)

[Alice]

Exactly Gemma..proves me right that its about ratings if their showing the gory bits during ads...should it be allowed though what with kids watching tv??

[Alice]

Good girl! Im sure the show started about 9pm so lots of kids would have the opportunity to see the ad and even the programme itself! Ofcom are useless b***ards..im sure they let things slip through accidentally/on purpose and then after when they get complaints then they decide to 'apologise'....

[Alice]

I doubt it,you could look, but I think thats pretty much it..